Macmillan Holdings, LLC. Legal Lad, Legal Lad's, QDnow, and Quick and Dirty Tips are all trademarks of Macmillan Holdings, LLC. The Fourth Amendment generally allows people to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. Mario legal I stopped at a store i go to almost everyday ...to play the lotto before going to school...today after not finding the slips i wanted i do as i always do cause i was told i could look under the lotto stand for the slips i needed but today some new employee of the store called the sercuitry guard and accused me of stealing ...i told the employee he best be sure of what he was talking about before accusing me of stealing ...the guard came and i told him what i had done ...but i had to leave so i didn't miss my bus ...this guard told me i had to listen to what he had to say or he would kick me out of the store and if i came back he would have me arrested for crimial tresspassing ..even though he actknoleged i had not stolen any thing...i told him i did not have time to stand there and listen to what he was babbling about ..i was upset and had no time to waste when he had just said i did nothing wrong..so my question is ...if i have been accused of something then its proven i done nothing wrong ..what right does he have to threaten me with having me arrested if i come back into the store after its proven i have done nothing wrong and the employee was mistaken...do i have a right to sue the store for the actings of there employee and this guards actions. http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=16732#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=16732#Comments Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:16:09 GMT j dckhr legal What about when you have been shopping at a store for 7 yrs, (Family Dollar), and are a person who never has and is of the character of someone who never would steal. Also, what if you yourself have seen several other customers shoplift an item in this same store, while you are asked to leave your bags with the the cashier and you your self are being followed by employees. What if, in this same store, you have seen cashiers' friends walk out the door with items hidden in their bags, while the alarm is sounding. At times, I have refused to leave my bags, other times I am bullied into leaving them. Why go back? Good question. Maybe because I am innocent and feel the need to defend my rights somehow. http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=16464#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=16464#Comments Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:18:45 GMT joe from NYC legal The big question here, for me at least, is this: Does one have to comply with the 'exit searches' being described. I think not, and when I'm leaving a store I ignore the security guy - even bypass the customers on the 'search line' on the way out. If confronted I tell them that if they think that I am stealing that they should call the police --I'll wait. Of course it never gets that far, because the guys know that it's not worth the trouble of actually calling the police, so they 'let' me go. http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=15748#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=15748#Comments Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:52:43 GMT Kevin Glover legal Based on everyones comments I can see that someone who is hired by an employer to do this type of inspectionis not held in high regard. However lets look at it from your perspective of your home. If you live in your house you have a right to refuse anyone enter except the police iwth a valid warrant of course. But lets say little Johnnys friend comes over and brings his CD case which you decide becuase of the funny smell coming from Johnnys room needs to be checked to dermine if billy will be able to come and play with Johnny again. Either Billy can show me what hes got or he wonat be allowed back in my house again. Oh yeah and I can have my wife or my son do that for me if I happen not to be working the door that day! http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=13722#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=13722#Comments Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:33:58 GMT HEATHER WILLIAMS legal I am upset from Friday, we had a Costco incedent and not that im better then anyone but in no way do i look like anything other then a blue collar family mother who spends her week shipping the U.S. military around and work for Goverment contractors and I have never even had detention in school in my life much less ever had a crime. I was 5 years ago a vicitm of a home invasion and beaten and usually it makes me uncomfortable to be searched. At Costco Friday night being 3rd inline to leave the lady at the door was counting EVERY item in the carts and matching them so it was triple the time it was to get through the line.. After a few more minutes is was just never mind and we walked out, a man from the other side followed us and made us stop the sign the reciept.. Ok again fine, so we went the the car after the linded reciept we had loaded our Costco items then started the car to leave and a Costo employee was at my window and held us there 5 minutes saying over and over and 8 times cutting us off when we spoke telling us "i WIll take your membership next time!" we tried to tell her we have too much cash to wait with 80 people at the food court at 8pm on friday night after work for that and all shes say was "I WILL TAKE YOUR MEMBERSHIP"! My question is I dont think she had any right to come to our car and lecture us like that does she? http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=13609#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=13609#Comments Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:07:31 GMT David Melton legal Can anyone tell me if a security guard has the legal right to ask your for ID and expect you to show it? Can you get in trouble legally if you don't show a security guard your ID? http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12997#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12997#Comments Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:44:58 GMT Matt legal From the article - The security guard is not compelled to abide by Fourth Amendment requirements, including the need for a warrant or probable cause to search. His search does not violate your Fourth Amendment rights. ----- This is pretty poorly written, the implication being that the store can commit any crime it wishes and is bound by no laws. This is clearly absurd, I have as much right to break into the shop, into the locked cars of shop employees, their homes, or their private property as they do to break into MY private property - namely zero, this 'right' does not exist. My private property includes everything I'm carrying with me, including my bag. Anyone forcibly searching my private property against my will will be on the receiving end of a swift beating, just as I would defend my home against burglars. http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12919#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12919#Comments Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:39:19 GMT Legal Lad legal Hello Loyal Listeners. I notice several comments below raise concerns that the second part of this episode addresses. Please be sure to check out Part 2 to get a more complete picture of this topic. http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12161#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12161#Comments Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:55:45 GMT Doug Wagner legal The advice given is simple: you are not legally obligated to do anything any non-governmental agent asks you to do. But, likewise, if you refuse to comply with a store's basic policy (such as showing your receipt), that store also has the legal right to refuse your business in the future. It sounds like it would be tricky to "sue" the store into letting you be a customer there because their security policy falls into a slight grey area. http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12110#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12110#Comments Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:14:59 GMT meh legal "the quick and dirty tip is just to comply with the security guard, and if you feel the store’s policy is overbearing, take your business elsewhere." Wow, could this advice possibly suck worse? The quick and dirty tip is to just ignore it and continue on with your business and walk out without surrendering to such ridiculous impositions. Seriously... why in the hell would anyone say "the easy solution is just to do whatever some random douche bag tells you to do"? http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12109#Comments http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx?commentid=12109#Comments Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:00:35 GMT Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:16:09 GMT http://legallad.quickanddirtytips.com/store-security-and-your-rights.aspx feedback@quickanddirtytips.com (Managing Editor) feedback@quickanddirtytips.com (Webmaster) en-us